Pat Beck (R), trying to distract us from a recalcitrant demo's performance, and Phil Nelson (L), the Newtek East Coast Sales Manager

and a very nice person. Phil appeared to be the guy in charge of the Nerwtek demo booth and of stomping on alligators.

Pat Beck, as if I need to mention it, is the author of the very well received LW 6.5/7 Projects Handbook